Sunday, June 17, 2012

John 3:16, Son of God Debunked!


Recently encontered with a Christian as usual his claims are full of ignorace and lies!!
Ignorance as he himself dont knowabout Bible and failed to reply 3 basic questions of mine instead as usual doing copy paste.

Lies as he tried to attack Islam using false hood but poor man dont know that in Quran there is a verse which gives guideline on how to catch lairs....."Ask them to produce proof if you are truthful". So i asked him to produce proof and as isual he failed miserably and come up with some more copy paste i asked about the context of Bibilical verse he posted and he loses his Temper :)

Here is one message from him, i debunked.

ALREADY JUDGED

Read | John 3:17-18

We all have heard the following phrase often: "I don't believe God is going to condemn me to hell." I agree, but not with the comment's intended meaning--that a person is worthy of heaven on the basis of his own merit. You see, it is true that the Lord doesn't condemn people to hell. He allows them to opt for that eternal destination themselves. They have a right to choose.

God says that those who do not believe in Jesus Christ have been judged already (v. 18). In other words, by rejecting--or politely ignoring--their need for a Savior, unbelievers have chosen to remain unsaved and unforgiven. Scripture teaches that there will one day be a judgment, but God has already determined that those who trust in Christ will stand with Him while the rest will be sent away (Matt. 25:34-46). An unrepentant man or woman is not condemned by God but, rather, has chosen to remain in the company of all those condemned by their own free will.

God desires that everyone come to a saving knowledge of His Son Jesus Christ (2 Peter 3:9). To that end, He has granted each person the right to decide whether or not to follow in obedience. However, those who reject the Savior are forewarned that they have settled for condemnation.


My Reply to him
Dear the verse Starts from 3:16 and this verse Talks about David not Jesus (pbut). So you should add David instead of Jesus (as) in ur concept of Trinity.

Here is the Proof
Verse 3:16 says "Only Begotten Son" (KJV) now which has been removed from Bible as a 4th century FABRICATION IN BIBLE.

Now Revised Standards Version

John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his ONLY SON, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.

The word begotten is not there.

But you will still argue, No no…I believe its (John 3:16) begotten.

For them….its ok .. the verse says Only begotten son, means GOD HAS ONLY ONE (Nauzubillah). 

Now look at Bible
Psalms {2:7} I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou [art] my Son; this day have I BEGOTTEN THEE.

As per this David is the begotten son…..and John 3:16 says God has only one without mentioning Jesus(pbuh)!!

Who is lord and savior???

Cause it should be David(pbuh) as per John 3:16


Its important to note that in bible Jesus(pbuh) has been mentioned as ‘Son Of Man” more than 80 times and many places he mentions "MY FATHER & YOUR FATHER".



NOW THE PROBLEM IS CHRISTIANS ARE READING THE TRANSLATION OF BOOK NOT THE ORIGINAL....where translators have translated the metaphorical term into verbal terms.


NOW WHAT SON OF GOD MEANS AS PER BIBLE??

Son of God is a metaphorical term used in bible to denote righteous person. This term is used again and again for all prophet. Abraham is son of God, Noah is son of God, David is son of God(Peace be upon all of them) etc

Bible has got son by Tons, in the book of Romans it is clearly mentioned that 
Romans {8:14} For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.

It clearly states that son of God means righteous person, as per this if you are a God fearing person then you are a son of God.

So “Son of God” is a metaphorical term used in bible for righteous person. UNFORTUNATELY CHRISTIANS HAVE TAKEN THIS AS A PHYSICAL ONE.


Otherwise its clear

God is one, The eternal refuge, GOD BEGETS NOT NOR HE IS BEGOTTEN, There is none equivalent to him.(Quran 112)


Same thing is mentioned in BibleBible Num 23:19 God is not a man ..nor a son of man!!

For concept of salvation as per Jesus (as) Click here and see how it contradicts with your Claim.

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